E-Chassis DCT Swap $6,500.00 Tax included. Whoever owns this car is my hero. So I was curious on how hard it would be to put a B58 into my E92 at some point. On the first time I couldnt decide about which engine I want. There is a guy on IG with an F31 who just sourced 440i B58 motor and will be doing the swap in next few months. Sure, it'll fit dimension-wise but you'll have to retrofit so much to make it work and communicate properly with everything. Not worth it at all. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. Vader Solution. Appreciate 0 Quote 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM #5: turnsignalslol. My question are. 8. The B58 is probably a much more natural transplant since that chassis already comes with it. Heh, i'm assuming they immediately tuned it, but for a brief second this was probably an engine swap car with the new engine making less power than the original one. Location: Hamburg Fire Co. Field House, 1127 South Fourth St, Hamburg, PA 19526. Theyre infamous for this. E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) E39 (1997 - 2003) E46 (1999 - 2006) E36 (1991 - 1999) E60 / E61 (2004 - 2010) Top Contributors this Month View All shawnsheridan 428 Replies. 5. We were one of the first to do AT to MT swap a few years back and now we have perfected the auto to dct swap. The guy's N55 let go on track, so decided to swap a B58 into it. I replaced it with an M3 (e90). We realised that the original 325i had a thicker inner cover in the rear wheel arches to reduce road noise. F30POST > Technical Forums > N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > N55/B58 swap into N20 Touring. so decided to swap a B58 into it. Still saving up for the car itself. the new b58 engine is more lighter, it is a straight six engine, the torque are better than s65. JavaScript is disabled. Just buy an M240i 6MT if you want a B58 in the sportiest manual chassis it came in. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. High capacity 5 1/2" deep front sump design with side kick outs for maximum oil capacity 1/2" thick CNC machined 6061 Billet Aluminum Flange and back plate Machined gasket surface to ensure no gasket leaks Rigid design like the OEM GM pan to ensure maximum strength and durability Can pwg parts be swapped over to ewg engine, Cts turbo xdrive lowering spring set **new product**, New here! 5. Did you check the weight difference between the 50 and 70? Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it, I don't have much knowledge to help you. Refreshments available. If you really want an E92, I mean damn, that car came with the N54, N55, and S65. Edit: (also asking this mostly because I'm curious about 328i and 335i differences excluding the engine). Until tuning gets WAY further down the line, no one is going to be making big power on these motors without. Jump to Latest Follow . Rep. 19. Appreciate 0 Quote This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. Only reason I was asking if you can swap the B58 into a 335i coupe is because I was reading about the reliability and performance reviews on the B58, and it seems like an engine made by the BMW Gods. What do you mean it's bot sleeved? It'll require all wiring, DME, trans and all assoc computers steering, then all interior tech to match too such as cluster AC radio etc. ! F30 335i xDrive PWG - MPPK Flash, Got a new motor and the hpfp is different, To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. Id entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine). As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. Are you saying that the cylinder walls are bare aluminum? I'll take one for the team, and I will happily let someone use my car to find out. F40Model Year: . Use a 5/64" (2mm) flat blade screwdriver to "push" the connector from the back of the socket housing. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. Low-end torque SUCKED, so it felt bog slow at low revs. I was thinking if I purchased a donor car off copart like a 440 with a twisted frame or something, drop the front and rear subframes with the motor and everything, swap over the fuel tank and lines. Also, this is going to be a 5 figure cost swap. 1 Reply More posts you may like This motor is very easy to remove,,,plenty of room in the engine compartment,,,,,hopefully I can do the job in the aloud factory time limit of 16 hour,,,,,today of 6 hours of work,,,,I removed the engine and trans,,,removed the old engine,,,swapped over the new engine,,,,and swapped over the intake manifold,alternator,a/c compressor and starter Does anyone know weather or not the B58 shares the same engine mounts as the M54B30? An S55 swap would definitely be an interesting one! Built by KK-Performance. n52 also had this. Waste of time and money. It's not even sleeved. G22Model Year: 2020 + . bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. It is not financially viable. I feel like it would have been cheaper to get a Supra and then dump a few upgrades but very excited to see how this goes if you ever find more info on it! Guys spent 3 weeks for making complete result. i saw a lot of e46 engine swap on internet. I am Grisha from Rostov, Russia. I am intrigued to see a DCT equipped S58. Great to know about the Pure transmissions. Edit: Got my answer, thanks for your help! Home / N55. Just buy a 335? Location: Los Angeles, CA and Phoenix, AZ. I found a complete B58 engine with ancillaries for a very decent price and due to the reason that my car has 250.000 Km (150.000 miles), Everything is starting to . I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. A. Adalbert_77 292 Replies. Definitely something to go with for X-drive just on the ease of install/programming alone. Cool idea, but it will be very very expensive. I'm not a big fan of E90's. Stage 2. I don't know what the point would be to swab a b58 and use a standalone when going to an m54b30 turbo with standalone should be a little easier. Thread Tools: Search this Thread 01-05-2018, 06:57 AM #1: billabum. F90Model Year: 2018 + Previous Generations; . i just want to know ask why no one will swap a b58b30 in it? 320xi f30 swapped in 340xi. The N55 is a pretty solid engine. Shipping: N52 Intake Manifold Horsepower Gains: ~20hp (328i) and ~30-35hp (325i) Buy Here: N52 330i 3-Stage Intake Manifold. www.n54tuning.com / mike@n54tuning.com Your # 1 Source for BMW Performance Parts at the LOWEST Prices! Its way better and stiffer than the f30, You're talking $10,000 on the swap alone! Held rain or shine. You can't swap in a b58 into anything older due to how bmw changed communication lines/data bus lines. now ive been told it is very possible and that it can be done but its going to take alot of money putting this in but im willing to do it. This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. Anything is possible, just time and money. Join Date: Jun 2017 . 5. M4. Jump to Latest Follow . Ok saying that the N54 is german 2jz is wrong as the 2JZ-GTE is actually German LOL. Nikasil coating on the cylinder walls. That is impressive! Same with the flywheel as mentioned above. Question was mostly for my curiosity to determine if it's something I'd want to do down the line maybe. Any challenges you had because the 320 body? Posts. VS - Wilwood Drag Brake Kit E90 E91 E92 E93 E82. Possible, but as others have said. At least one of them has to be your style. E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) N20/B48 swap 2008 E92 320i. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. So even inner wheel arches on a chassis that looked identical from the outside is different between the models. Second Lieutenant . Bringing the BMW community together. I would love for it to be true, n54 engine prices would come down making it a delicious engine swap candidate like RB's and JZ's. hello im fairly new to this car thing too.. i recently purchased my 428I about 7 months ago and im not going to lie i love my car and the n20 engine has been very reliable to me but to be honest i want to go on with my build and proceed with more power bc the n20 can only hold so much power before it blows up. Not when 335is are as cheap as they are. If it's an M/T car i'm sure they got it out of a M240i and not a Supra or a G-series or something. The swap will be very expensive and for that cost you'd be better off putting that money towards buying a car with a B58 in it. s65b40 or s85b50 are the most popular engine. Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it. Rather than swap in a stock transmission I went ahead and did an HP70 swap out of a diesel 430d. This makes no sense, but I love it. I'd sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, there're about worth the same. I also saw someone with a 2015 320xi pre-lci manage to have a B58 swapped into his F30. Id sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, therere about worth the same. Hi guys, after an M5 F10 full swap been done, just got an B58 of an 140i ready to swap. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Stock turbos, the B58 is better. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. Is it worth it? A B58 with a DCT is what I always wanted the M2 to be. Now this is interesting. This thread was never updated, but was perhaps updated on social media elsewhere: so has anyone successfully swapped a B58 into an F30 which was previously an N20 ? It would be a pure race car build at that point, which, if you're doing such a thing, is a heavy chassic and poor choice for a race car anyway. B58 turbo swap? We uploaded the update 10 minutes ago! I wonder how difficult the swap is, considered it when I had mine. Mine was a 6-speed. 75. Contact: Lester Manwiller - 610-823-4656; hamburgswapmeet@ontelaunneeaaca.com. This would be a very cool swap but doesn't seem worth it at all. M4. M4. It was used in pretty much everything BMW offered, from small coupes up to large SUVs, which is a testament to how versatile this engine is. VS - Stage 3 (E Series N54/N55) Rev 3 . The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. It would be one hell of a sleeper. CALL A PRODUCT EXPERT NOW AT 602-437-2101 Install Effort $2,449.99 Wastegate Flange Selection Dual 44mm Wastegate Flanges + $2,599.99 On top of that because it's a closed deck the cylinder walls aremy as well cooled as the N54 and that will only expedite the failure. We should have more pans ready by March". E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Pure's built transmission is probably the absolute best option for upgraded transmissions we have right now, but also the most expensive coming in at $6000 for their Stage 1 transmission. Saw this post linked from the 6MT trans limit discussion. So much so that I'd prefer it over the N55. It has a much higher spec interior, suspension and brakes. I'm not sure if I missed it, but is the B58 closed deck? We have tons of content for the N55, and we're always adding more. Cool idea. Very interesting swap, so if I understand you right, you have a B58 swapped into your 320i xDrive? Its not worth it at all. Can I swap to an S58? I remember Terry saying somewhere that the factory fueling is capped at right around 400 whp and the only way around it is TBI, PI, Meth, etc. Regular price $140 View. Items for everyone including white elephants. Content on bimmerfest.com is generated by its users. Meaning I don't think it will hold up well at 600whp+ power levels. Try and keep the blade of the screwdriver on the rubber insulation while pushing to avoid puncturing the wires. Find amazing local prices on Bmw n47 engine for sale Shop hassle-free with Gumtree, your local buying & selling community. I haven't found any definitive answers for this question but how interchangeable are the N55s from different years and chassis, so I was hoping the wisdom of the forum could illuminate what would work with what. Vader Solution. N55, S55, B58 none of them have dethroned the king, There are a few threads in this forum showing n54s with no meth just FBO e85 mix with inlets that are hitting over 500whp, S55 did, but its in a different price bracket lol, N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i, http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho1213066&page=4. G30Model Year: 2017 + . Has anyone try or do a b58 swap into a e30? Do you know if there's any chasis differences when it comes to the 335i and 328i? It would probably be much cheaper to buy an 328i for a swap than a 335i and pay more money for a faster engine that won't be used. But I don't know if that exists yet, and many if not most features in the car would work after besides the engine. B58 M2 is the perfect combo IMO. You really might as well buy a 135i or an M140i from the get-go. Car is a manual, would have been even better to have a B58 DCT! 1. VS - HeadPort Plugging Kit N54 N55 S55 B58. Therefor you need to buy an N57 flywheel, luckily these can be found cheap on eBay ($50-$100 from overseas, or . There will be a problem with the driveshafts, from which they will fit, the transfer case itself also differs in the year of manufacture, despite the same model ACL35, perhaps something else will go crooked)). N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. SKU: KSE30. Without a doubt. 4. Mind you once you are done you will probably need preventative replacement parts on the engine that you have sourced second hand and that's several k more to bring it to 'new' condition. You are using an out of date browser. B58 done right is a much better power-plant. B58 swap out questions. However once you start upgrading the turbo, even though it's a closed deck block, it doesn't have the forged international components. The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. Do you have any videos on youtube? As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. That's pretty cool. Press J to jump to the feed. I bought the 4 cylinder because it is my daily driver and dont want to spend a ton on gasoline but it just lacks torque. Fettled M135i EB AT - gone but not forgotten: N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning. For these guys it wasnt challenging, also my car was fourth or fifth with swapped engine, which made by their hands). . I think SC_B5X was pushing around 650whp? How does it's Crank Hub do compared to the S55? Thank you for information. I am just curious if it would be possible to engine swap a 2008 E92 320i with the more modern turbo N20/B48 engine. I guess that is kinda what I'm asking. Availability: "Due to the overwhelming popularity of our oil pans we are doing our best to keep up with the orders. Allows for less friction for a quicker revving engine at the cost of cylinder strength. The "Stuck-in-Comfort" mode issue should be now fixed for all cars. That sounds like a very very very complicated swap if you're trying to run it off of the factory systems. the 340 is the upgraded 335 and it has been 10 years so yea its about time BMW release an engine as good as the N54 (power wise). M5. N55 engine swap into E36 BMW cheap and easy DIY - YouTube 0:00 / 1:29:01 N55 engine swap into E36 BMW cheap and easy DIY HakenE30 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 757 Share Save 31K views 1 year. A lot of differences. Silly question, but is this a comparable upgrade to the likes of the new pure drivetrain solutions 8hp50 transmission? I'm sure it'd still be a nightmare but less of a nightmare than a b58 swap. BMW's N52 engine uses an intake designed to minimize noise rather than maximize airflow. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Former Technician // E90 335D // G20 330i, BMW Lvl 1 Master Technician, HV Specialist, Gen 5 Certified. We in North America do not know the E87 nor the N46 so we likely can't be of much help. 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